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Posted 12/1/2007 12:00:29 AM
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****o - This is my first woodworking project.  I own the Dremel 300-1/ 41H. 

I have a piece of Birch wood that is 22"x11"x3/4".  I want to cutout a recessed smaller rectangular shape into the wood. Kind of like a picture frame.  I plan on laying some ceramic tiles into the recessed area.  The end result is going to be a sign spelling out a last name.

I have the Dremel Guide and bought the 692 router bit set.  Outside of having clamps and a solid platform for performing the cutting are there any tips that someone can offer on the best way to begin the project?

For example, sketch out the area and drill multiple small holes as starting and end points for the Dremel to move towards.  Should I work in small sections notching out sections with a Chisel?  Any info is appreciated.  Also, do you have any recommendations on the best glue for adhering cermaic tiles to wood?  I have Liquid Nails Small Projects and believe that should be sufficient.

I plan on priming and painting the wood so it lasts a long time as the last name sign will be on the exterior of a house.  Thanks a bunch, Giovanni

Giovanni Spiteri

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Posted 12/1/2007 2:58:41 PM


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I am trying to find someone who can answer your question. I don't know much about woodworking.

Doug


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Posted 12/2/2007 7:34:09 PM


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Hi Giovanni, this is an ambitious woodproject as a first one, it seems like you already have some experience though.  I will take you through it one step at a time. 

1st of all, you need the plunge router 335.  This tool should do the whole thing for you.  It is a nice attatchment with edge guides, so it will make things much easier.  For the 1st step, I would use the 654 router bit.

Once you have the Dremel in the plunge router, and the 654 bit installed, experiment on some other pieces of wood until you get the desired depth keeping in mind the thickness of tiles, and leaving a little extra space for the tile adhesive.  You should also experiment with the edge guide and the desired distance.  Also, with a pencil and a big square, draw the lines which will represent the boundary for the inside frame edge, where the oustide edge of the tiles will sit, on your working piece.

The next step is obviously to start on your real working piece. Start with the outside edges, careful not to go beyond the boundaries.  Remember what you had the guide set at.  Leaving the two chrome bars in the plunge router base, remove the black plastic part of the edge guide.

Staying within the inset boundary area, remove all of the wood in the inset area.  Listen and feel for the inset boundary line.  That will tell you when to stop.  When you are finished, you should have the whole rectangle notched out.  If you want to put a nice finish on the inside edge, the edge guide is still set.  All you have to do is re-install the plastci part of the edge guide, and change the router bit to another desired router bit.

Goodluck, let me know how it turns out.

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Posted 12/2/2007 7:42:00 PM


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Sorry Giovanni.  I for got to mention a couple of things, you can do the same thing with the Dremel guide I believe, but it will be much trickier as more one handed freehand will be involved.  If you don't want to buy the plunge router attatchment, then I would install fences on your working piece so you can use the guide and create the boundary notched rectangle.  The idea is that the inset notched rectangle will be used as a reference point.  Once you have that, then you've got it made.

If you need instructions on how to install a fence, just let me know, or are you going to buy the plunge router?

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Posted 12/3/2007 10:45:19 AM
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Good job, Barry! Your ought to put a Dremel Woodworking High School or write a Dremel High Woodworking Manual! Good to see you back in the forum

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Posted 12/3/2007 1:17:21 PM


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Thanks for the encouragement Enrique.  I am still around, just not as often, and when I have checked on the Messageboard, usually someone else has given excellent suggestion or advice to adequately answer the posed questions, or the posed questions have been outside of my area of experience and knowledge.  I do check on my E-mails at least once a week, moreso in the wintertime because I am indoors more.

But it is nice to hear from you.

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Posted 12/4/2007 2:59:10 PM
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The easiest thing to do is rout out the edge of the insert area you want.  Once you have done that, with care, you can visually rout the rest of the area.  The trick is to get the edge cut line, I assume it is rectangular, exact so your tile fits in the recess exactly right.   You didn't say how big an area you are going to cut out.  You could make up a template as a reference fence for the router but I think it is easier to just use a straight edge, clamped down on the birch as a reference fence for the router base and do each side of the cutout.  If the distance from the router base straight edge to the edge of the router bit is longer than the distance from the edge of the birch to your cutout area, just butt up another 3/4" piece of s**** wood for straight edge reference.

Remember to clamp the reference fence and birch down firmly to the table.  Tile is normally about 1/4" but don't set the depth of the router a full 1/4" try a couple of 1/8" cuts.  Once you have the edge cut you can eyeball the rest cutting to the center of the cut out area.  Good Luck

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Posted 12/18/2007 1:49:28 AM
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Thanks everyone...I'll post a photo of the completed project soon.

Thanks for all the suggestions!

Giovanni

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