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Hi and let me start by saying I purchased the Moto-Saw today and I am quite impressed! I am relatively new to the art of scroll sawing but have made quite a few projects over the last few months using Craftsman 16" and Ryobi 16" scroll saws (I have yet to use any high end scroll saws).



When I purchased the Moto-Saw and brought it home, I really didn't have high expectations. After I pulled it out and set it up, the first thing I did was to take out some Baltic Birch plywood of various thicknesses and make a few cuts. I started with 1/8" and worked up to 1/2" seeing how well it could handle some tight radius cuts. I noticed no difference in power when cutting the 1/2" as I did when cutting the 1/8" (I did use a different speed setting of course).



I then pulled up a graphic from the Internet and proceeded to see how well the Moto-Saw handled a simple job. Attached is an image of the little figure I cut out using 5/16" thick Mohogany. I used my Dremel 4000 to route the base edge.



I was very pleased with how easy it is to remove and replace the blade when making interior cuts. There is no blower however, so I had to keep constantly blowing off the saw dust while cutting. This is no big deal for me as my old Craftsman doesn't have a blower either (I'm used to it).



There are a couple issues I have with the Moto-Saw but nothing to deter me from recommending it to anyone interested in purchasing one.



1) I am somewhat disapointed Dremel didn't design it to use standard 5" blades and it's a shame they couldn't have figured out a way to make it accept pinless blades. As with any pinned scroll saw blade, you need to drill a considerably large hole for interior cuts. This limits the detail of your interior cuts.



2) The kit I purchased came with everything but the Miter Guage... which leads me to the reason I actually posted this...



From where do I purchase the optional Fence / Miter Guage? It is listed in the user manual, and there is even a place for it in the case but nowhere on the site is it available to purchase.



Sincerely,



sdudley



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I would like to add another comment to my above review of the Moto-Saw (unable to edit my original post).



One thing I have read from others who have purchased this tool is that the vibration is a little much at higher speeds. Again, this was a concern that I expected to be an issue since it is not a high end scroll saw. However, I was very surprised to find that just by keeping the hold down foot firmly against the material the vibration is very minor and it is quite pleasant to scroll at high speeds.



I do not have a hold down foot on my Craftsman 16" so I am not used to using one. As well, I have seen many scrollers who don't use it. I found that it does not distract me at all so I am good with using it. If the hold down foot is lifted slightly above the material you will get vibration so it is good to keep it firmly pressed against the material.



The vibration on this Moto-Saw is about the same as my Craftsman and considerably less than that of the Ryobi (which I was not impressed with at all).



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sdudley (3/2/2013)
The kit I purchased came with everything but the Miter Guage... which leads me to the reason I actually posted this...



From where do I purchase the optional Fence / Miter Guage? It is listed in the user manual, and there is even a place for it in the case but nowhere on the site is it available to purchase.



Sincerely,



sdudley



Ditto on concern over the missing Miter Gauge/Fence in the US kit. I do not see it listed as an included accessory in the Moto-Saw package offered by any US vendor or on the Dremel US website. I do however see a "Parallel Guide Attachment" listed in the Dremel Europe kit and by vendors in the UK.



I'd like to get Dremel Customer Service's reply on availability before ordering the Moto-Saw kit or at least get a referral to a Miter Gauge that will fit on the table top.
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Ditto on the contents of this message thread. I too would like to acquire the moto-saw miter gauge, and how come the blades do not seem to be available from any 3rd party source?



Thanks,

Mike
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I think it's just too new for any third party manufacture to bother making blades for it.  They are not common size blades (standard 5 inch) like other scroll saws.  They are 4 inch blades with about a 2-1/2 inch cutting area.  They also have no teeth at one end so if you install the blade upside down it simply won't cut.  Personally I kind of like that for a nice little safety feature.  Smile
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Chandler (3/4/2013)
Ditto on the contents of this message thread. I too would like to acquire the moto-saw miter gauge, and how come the blades do not seem to be available from any 3rd party source?



Thanks,

Mike




I finally broke down and called Dremel and have been told the miter gauge is not yet available in the United States. I was told to check back in another month.



I think I'll just make one. Smile



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There is a Miter cutting guide for sale I have one, I got it from Amazon. The miter is on EBay also and at Home depot. The straight edge guide that follows a board edge is not for sale any place, but customer service will sell it to you directly. Customer service should be able to sell you any thing Dremial - Rotor Zip makes.
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There is a Miter cutting guide for sale I have one, I got it from Amazon. The miter is on EBay also and at Home depot. The straight edge guide that follows a board edge is not for sale any place, but customer service will sell it to you directly. Customer service should be able to sell you any thing Dremial - Rotor Zip makes.
Are you talking about a Miter Guide for the Moto-Saw or the Saw-Max? An extensive search (local, google, Amazon, and ebay) did not reveal a Miter Guide or Parallel Guide attachment for the Moto-Saw other than those that are displayed and listed in DremelEurope Moto-Saw offerings. Would you be kind enough to share a link to the sources that offered this item for the Moto-Saw in the U.S.?
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I spent a little more time playing with the Moto Saw this weekend and discovered that while it may not have a blower, if you hook up a small shop vac or dust collector you do not need a blower.

I was considerably surprised how well the vacuum port keeps saw dust off of the surface when you actually use it.  w00t  It's a real pleasure.  Now all I need is to get some sort of dust collection system because the saw dust is wreaking havoc on my shop vac.

I decided to go ahead and make a little miter gauge and see how well it works.  The miter gauge/fence works fine but is pretty useless for trying to cut straight lines on a scroll saw.  I hadn't thought about it until I started cutting, but the nature of the thin blade inherently follows the grain so it's near impossible to make a straight cut using a fence on a scroll saw.

Regardless, I'll probably still buy the fence when it is available anyway.  The one I made is attached.

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Has anyone tried using this saw free hand? I understand you can take it off the table and use it like or similar to a coping saw. I have this tool on my wish list and am loving this type of info prior to buying.



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